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On the bright side, the Hawks played the Mavericks even after falling behind 12-0 to start the game. Also, Acie Law IV played a sort of effective offensive game.

Yet maybe being overshadowed is what looks to be a breakout season for the oft-cursed No. 2 pick in 2005, Marvin Williams. The Hawks' front office isn't out of the woods yet for passing on the likes of Deron Williams and Chris Paul, but Marvin Williams is quietly showing his massive promise at the tidy age of 21. After his 14-point, five-rebound and five-assist night, Williams is averaging 16.7 points, 5.7 rebounds and, the biggie, shooting an astounding 50 percent from the field in his third season. He's also second on the Hawks in steals at 1.2 per game.Here's to effective spacing. He'd be even more efficient offensively if he got more opportunities to fill the lane on the break. I like to think he has some untapped potential as a rebounder but also like to think that I'm not especially greedy.
“They’ve got to have another shooter, or two man. Everybody could use more help in the post but it’s just not happening. There aren’t enough quality big men to go around. Plus, with Josh Smith and Al Horford, they’ve got two of the better young tweeners in the league. Neither of those guys is the ideal size, but they play off of each other perfectly. But what they can get, and what they desperately need, is another quality shooter. Other than Joe Johnson, they don’t have a guy that you’re worried about spotting up and knocking down shots in transition or in the half court game. Marvin Williams is on the path, but he’s still a guy you can take away by getting underneath him with a smaller, active guy. They don’t have another guy that scares you from distance. They just don’t. And if they did, that would open up the floor for the rest of those guys to operate a little easier. Sometimes a subtle thing like that can open up a team’s offense in ways they never imagined.”As of today, the Hawks are 25th in the NBA in eFG%. They sit ahead of just the Nets, Sonics, Knicks, Clippers, and Bulls (combined winning percentage: .342). The three teams directly ahead of the Hawks are the Timberwolves, Bobcats, and 76ers.
It would be much more manageable for the Hawks if they weren't dealing with all these injuries. Josh Childress (groin), Acie Law IV (knee), Tyronn Lue (calf), Salim Stoudamire (ankle) and Speedy Claxton (knee) were all on the bench in suits against the Bobcats.on Monday morning except to fill inches? If they're not giving you any new information, write about that so someone like me doesn't wonder if you're bothering to ask in the first place.
I'm not going to lie - the Hawks have their work cut out for themselves tonight in Detroit. Facing a Pistons team that manhandled them at Philips a couple weeks ago and beat them (controversially, I might add) during the season's opening weekend as well, the team will need to play at its highest level if they want to come away with a win.Speaking of Charlotte, they're the focus of ESPN today.
That in itself is going to be tough, especially considering Al Horford is out due to suspension, Josh Childress is out with a strained groin, and T-Lue is still out as well. Zaza Pachulia will be back, but since it's his first game back after missing 5 straight dealing with a concussion I don't know how much we can expect from him either.
Honestly? I'm willing to give the team a pass in advance tonight, provided they come home and take care of business tomorrow night against Charlotte.
NEW YORK, December 13, 2007 – Atlanta Hawks forward Al Horford has been suspended one game without pay for committing a Flagrant Foul Penalty Two by striking Toronto’s T.J. Ford on the head, it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Executive Vice President Basketball Operations.Sekou Smith reports that Zaza Pachulia "is expected to return to the lineup and start in Horford's place."
The incident occurred with 1:32 remaining in the fourth quarter of the Hawks 100-88 loss to the Raptors on Tuesday night at Philips Arena. Horford will serve his suspension Friday against the Detroit Pistons.
"He didn't give me any indication when he was going to play but I wanted to assure him that he's a big part of what we're doing and we need him back on the floor to play whatever minutes he's going to play. We need him back on the floor."It's nice to see that there is some common ground between myself and Mr. Woodson. It's not so nice that the post rotation consists of Al Horford (and his head coach instituted four foul limit) and, on a good night, Shelden Williams. Zaza, assuming it's the Zaza that Billy Knight could point to as his one good decision as a GM, will (would?) be a welcome addition.
Buried in Atlanta, Josh Smith could well be a bigger, better version of Luol Deng.A good read, inspired by Smith's outstanding performance in Orlando Monday night and written before he torpedoed the Atlanta cause against Toronto last night. Because Steve (admittedly) doesn't see the Hawks play very often, he overrates Smith's defense (great shot blocker, good help defender, reckless gambler, and helpless when posted up against) and understates his poor shot selection (which is, again, so bad because he's so effective when he attacks the basket).
I abhor basketball fights, mostly because, as Sam says, players can’t fight. But surely to all that’s good in the world, someone should have at least got in Al Horford’s face just a wee bit, don’t you think?
Not to punch him, but to say something, maybe push him, let him know smacking a kid in the head on a drive is stupid, very, very stupid...
...I have no doubt Horford had no thoughts of slamming Ford to the floor when he tried to foul him and maybe the rookie learns from it. Grab him around the waist, foul him at the free throw line or in the lane before he gets in the air.
Don’t swing your arm with no idea where it’s going to land.
And even though there was no malice intended, I really think the NBA has to suspend him a game and take some money away from him just to learn a lesson.
We simply had no fire or intensity tonight. For the second game in a row, it appeared as though the team were still being coached by Brian Hill.Ben Q Rock highlights Basketbawful's Worst of the Night there as well.
Atlanta really put something together last night. It was probably the best we've seen them play since the Lenny Wilkens era, and they came away with a wholly deserved road win over a divisional rival.
“We did make some mistakes, but I actually thought a lot of it was them. They've got great, great quickness as a team, and good length. I thought they made it very, very difficult on us to get quality shots - they contested shots better than anybody that we've played against.”Jameer Nelson and Carlos Arroyo did not, as I predicted, torch Anthony Johnson and Acie Law IV. They didn't get a chance to get burned. Joe Johnson guarded the Orlando point guard on the vast majority of their possessions. He couldn't keep either Nelson or Arroyo in front of him any better than Anthony Johnson or Law would have but Johnson's size made it possible for the Hawks to switch on the pick-and-roll without creating a series of matchup problems for themselves. It was an effective coaching decision and came as a complete shock to me. At least until I discovered the identity of this plan's creator:
The defensive wrinkle Hawks assistant coach Dave Fizdale suggested in the scouting report for Monday night's game against Orlando seemed like a subtle one.I liked that decision a lot better than Woodson's use of the Law/Anthony Johnson backcourt combo for 3:11 at the end of the third and start of the fourth quarter. Neither is much use off the ball and Law especially needs experience playing the point. Orlando got within four before Woodson put a more sensible unit on the floor.
"Everything unfolded exactly the way it was supposed to," Josh Smith said. "Fiz went over the blueprint during shootaround and it played out just the way he said it would."
This is honestly the first time we've actually carved out an identity for ourselves. I know that sounds crazy but in my eyes, we're just now hitting our stride. For a long time we've played to whatever style was dictated to us. And we've had our struggles, and probably will have some more, everybody does. But the last couple of games have felt different.There's no new news about Josh Childress's groin. He must still be planning to play tonight.
"We got them out of the locker room a little bit earlier than we have in the past. They were able warm up a lot quicker, and it was a nice carryover into the third quarter."Your thoughts, Josh Smith?
"It got our bodies moving."I guess we'll see if this works as well when the opponent isn't 6-13 and playing the second game of a road back-to-back after the previous night's game went to overtime.
The Atlanta Hawks are among the worst franchises in the NBA. The team has not made the postseason since 1999 and has failed to flirt with a winning season this decade. The Hawks have drafted with apparently no game plan, traded poorly and in recent years its owners have seemed more interested in suing each other than building a credible franchise.The overriding fact that it's occasionally best but always impossible to ignore is that the franchise has no one in charge. Building a playoff team in this circumstance is extraordinarily difficult even if the team's GM wasn't spending the fifth-overall pick on Shelden Williams and the team's coach can't conceive of useful combinations of the few good players at his disposal.
This tool really shows how the East has split into the Big Three and the Little 12. Orlando, Detroit and Boston all show up as locks to win their respective divisions, while Atlanta limps into the No. 8 seed with just 37 wins.Elsewhere, check out Kelly Dwyer's new home at Yahoo! Sports. Eleven posts in two days. Let's see if he can keep that pace up.
"Our offense tonight was just atrocious. I don't know what we were doing."I guess it's good to know that Anthony Johnson's Mark Jackson impression wasn't part of the game plan.
"I was pretty pleased with our defense.”Assuming that statement's been reported accurately and didn't conclude with "...in the first quarter," one has to wonder what game Woodson watched. The Bulls scored 21 points in the second quarter despite missing a number of open jump shots and generally chucking the ball around due more to their ongoing implosion than the influence of the Hawks defense.
"Not only has Law missed games against Minnesota and Chicago on this trip, he's also missed valuable practice and bonding time with his teammates.”My guess is that brotherhood and camaraderie follow good shot selection, defensive rebounding, and defense rather than vice versa. Either way, I seriously doubt that they are of equal value to a basketball team. This may be a minority opinion.
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Name | %Min | Off Eff |
---|---|---|
Stoudamire | 13.5% | 109 |
Lue | 37.2% | 106.9 |
J Johnson | 86.8% | 106.5 |
Childress | 66.3% | 105.4 |
West | 5.5% | 105.2 |
M Williams | 72.4% | 105.1 |
Horford | 65.9% | 103.8 |
TEAM | N/A | 103.8 |
Smith | 66.7% | 102.3 |
Law | 25.5% | 100.7 |
Pachulia | 16.2% | 100 |
S Williams | 22% | 99.2 |
A Johnson | 20.2% | 91.7 |
Name | %Min | Def Eff |
---|---|---|
A Johnson | 20.2% | 100.9 |
Smith | 66.7% | 102.6 |
Law | 25.5% | 104.7 |
M Williams | 72.4% | 104.9 |
Horford | 65.9% | 106.5 |
TEAM | N/A | 106.7 |
Childress | 66.3% | 107.4 |
Lue | 37.2% | 108.2 |
S Williams | 22% | 108.2 |
J Johnson | 86.8% | 109 |
Pachulia | 16.2% | 111.1 |
West | 5.5% | 113.2 |
Stoudamire | 13.5% | 115.2 |
"Lue provided the boost the Hawks needed at point guard against Miami, playing some crucial minutes with a sore groin and a sore knee still bothering him.The Hawks can afford to give Law a couple more days off as the Timberwolves are the rare team in the league that can look at the Anthony Johnson/Tyronn Lue point guard tandem with envy. Hell, with Antoine Walker around, the Timberwolves can look with envy at Josh Smith's shot selection.
The Hawks' depth at the position remains paper thin, with rookie Acie Law IV (ankle) and veteran Speedy Claxton (knee) nursing injuries that haven't allowed them to play. Law, however, is expected to return either tonight against the Timberwolves or more realistically against in Chicago on Tuesday or Milwaukee on Wednesday at Philips Arena."
"Honestly, I don't think everybody on this team knows their role. think it hurts us as a team because you have guys out there, no matter how good their intentions, trying to do things they have no business doing. But when we play our roles and execute, we're fine."Mike Woodson continued to make the argument that he's among the worst coaches in the league. Anthony Johnson again saw minutes (27:00) suggesting that Woodson perceives his value to be equivalent to Josh Childress (28:01), Al Horford (26:36), and Marvin Williams (29:25).
"Our first [11] games really included the three best teams in the Western Conference and three of the best teams in the Eastern Conference, so we knew it was going to be a grind."There's some sort of TV embargo on Saturday night's game in Minnesota so it will go unseen except for those in the Target Center. With no hope of watching the game, I'll settle for an injury report published somewhere prior to tomorrow night's tip-off.
Hawks assistant Larry Drew, the architect of Monday's video mantra, realized the Hawks needed a subtle reminder of their toughness and resilient nature after close back-to-back losses to Seattle and Milwaukee.I guess. I thought the Hawks lost those games because the roster lacks quality guards to begin with and the team's second-through-fourth best guards were each injured. If this team's healthy, they'll contend for a playoff spot. If this team's not healthy, we'll all become very familiar with the limitations of Shelden Williams, Anthony Johnson, Solomon Jones, and Mario West as basketball players.
"For once, having about 12 small forwards did right by the Atlanta Hawks. In the first half, it was Josh Smith. In the second half, it was Josh Childress. And Marvin Williams sprinkled his 19 points from start to finish. The Charlotte Bobcats never did figure out the variations on the theme that beat them, 117-109 Wednesday. The Hawks' roster is unconventional, to say the least. They keep drafting the same 6-foot-7 runner-jumper. The names change, but the skill set varies little."Hey, back-to-backs are tough on the beat writers, too. Assuming that the fine readers of The Charlotte Observer don’t know or care to differentiate between the skill sets of Joe Johnson, Josh Childress, and Marvin Williams is likely a percentage play by Bonnell.
"Josh Childress won't win the Sixth Man award this year -- not with Manu Ginobili, Jason Terry and Leandro Barbosa all lighting it up for contending teams out west. But in Wednesday's 117-109 win over the Charlotte Bobcats, he again showed why he's one of the league's most underrated players -- and perhaps one of its most coveted ones when he becomes a restricted free agent next summer."SI.com's Ian Thomsen does the same for Marvin Williams:
"There are plenty of explosive athletes who can occasionally outleap the defense, but few of Williams' age grasp how to score within their team's offense."You regular Hoopinion readers have heard similar things about Childress and Marvin Williams before. For more things you've heard from me before plus valuable insight from other Hawks watchers, the latest bloggers roundtable is up on the Hawks' official site.